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#1 23-02-2010 00:23:15

darko-sice
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Iz: Aleksinac-Srbija
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Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

ovako,muka je sledeca...auto je 2001 2.0 dth....znaci on kad nece izbaci mi sledecu gresku P1604 ENGINE CONTROL MODULE-DEFECTIVE....I normalno nece da upali....nedozvoljava mi da udjem npr. u motorni u parametre,samo je u tom trenutku aktivno za greske,greska se nemoze izbrisati....jednom je dodao jos jednu P1625- CONTROL MODULE-MALFUNCTION...kad nekad iz cista mira proradi on sve dozvoli i sa dijagnostikom i sto sam prometio jednu interesantnu stvar,kad se na tabli pojavi natrenutak lampica za grejace on pali u tom trenutku,cim je nema nepali i izbaci gresku...odmah da navedem da nema veze sa modulom i sa grejacima....sumnjam na motorni,da li se tu moze nesto uraditi....motorni je bosch....malo sam maltretirao instalaciju da vidim da li slucajno negubi kontakt ali nista....ako je neko imao slican problem ili ima ideju nek predlozi necu mu nista :-)
POZDRAV

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#2 23-02-2010 02:01:10

RS-4
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

Nadam se da pricamo o  Y 20 DTH,

otvori komp, na ploci nadji pin br. 39 (12V na kontaktu) i pin br. 3 (napajanje sa relea) pa meri sta se desava u trenutku problema i kad problem nije prisutan.

Takodje iskontrolisi pin br. 1 i 2 (masa) sta se desava pod optrerecenjem sto isto vazi i za gore navedene pinove.

Najverovatnije imas problem sa napajenjem preko relea sto ces ustanoviti kad izvrsis ova merenja a na sta ukazuje greska P1625.

Pozdrav


P.S. pinovi idu sa "levog" konektora

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#3 23-02-2010 10:29:41

zlukic
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

darko ti ne smes da od odgovoris na postavljena pitanja , trazio si nesto i dobio , da li ti je to pomoglo?


best regards!

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#4 23-02-2010 11:26:51

darko-sice
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

Izvini ali te nerazumem sta podrazumevas pod tim "nesmes"...da pricali smo o simulatoru za grejace....nisam probao zato sto ovo nema veza sa grejacima....
POZDRAV

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#5 23-02-2010 12:04:58

zlukic
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

pa to znaci ,ako te nesto pitam trebao bi da odgovoris,bar je tako u nasem mestu.


best regards!

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#6 23-02-2010 13:24:44

darko-sice
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

Aha ok je to...tako je svuda...nije do toga ali sad moram krenuti redom...da vidim napajanja....rele...
POZDRAV

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#7 23-02-2010 22:52:59

darko-sice
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

Rezultat je sledeci....mene ovde hebe kljuc...u parametrima ga nevidi kad nece da upali...dobro,ali mi nije jasno sledece...kad nece,dovoljno je da izvadim kljuc i vratim i pali bez problema...i tako dok se opet nedesi....proban drugi klljuc...pregledan immo box kod volana,konektor...da li je do ulozka brave,na njemu imam sve napone...da li je do mehanickog dela da li je nesto trece....vise mi nije jasno.....
POZDRAV

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#8 23-02-2010 23:04:11

marsher
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

Short circuit to voltage between:
A7 Control Unit - Diesel
(Wiring Harness Connector X59 )
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 3
&
B46 Air Mass Meter
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 2
&
Y4 Solenoid Valve - Exhaust Gas Recirculation
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 2
&
Y7 Solenoid Valve - Spin Level Regulation
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 2
&
Y8 Solenoid Valve - Boost Pressure Regulation
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 2
&
A9 Control Unit - Glow Time
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 8
&
A10 Control Unit - Injection Pump
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 7
&
S43 Switch - Stop Lamp, Double
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 1
&
S28 Switch - Clutch, Cruise Control
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 4
&
K17 Relay - Filter Preheating
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 2
&
Wiring harness connector terminals of all components (wiring harness side), which were disconnected from the wiring harness during this trouble shooting session
&
Concerned terminals of all wiring harness connectors, which are connected with the corresponding lead.
or

Defective component:
A7 Control Unit - Diesel




sledece moguce

Short circuit to ground between:
A7 Control Unit - Diesel
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 58 (X59)
&
K18 Relay - Engine Control Unit
Socket Terminal 6




sledece


High transition resistance between:
G1 Battery
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 30
&
A7 Control Unit - Diesel
(Wiring Harness Connector X59 )
Wiring harness connector (wiring harness side) terminal 3


i zadnje

Defective component:
A7 Control Unit - Diesel


"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Einstein

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#9 23-02-2010 23:24:40

marsher
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

A uvezi p1604- ili treba pokusati reprogramirati ECU ako to moze popraviti stvar ili ga zameniti

Presek ovih skupova gresaka je neispravan ECU, ali ipak treba proveriti sve ostalo

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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Einstein

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#10 24-02-2010 20:44:50

bjeli
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

provjeri elektricni dio brave jer ima mogucnost tu da gubi napajanje neki dan sam imao problem sa audiom i u tom trenutku kad ne pali nisam mogao
uci u motorni a mozda imas problem sa ocitavanjem koda

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#11 25-02-2010 00:09:12

Dajan2008
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

marsher napisao:

Short circuit to voltage between:
A7 Control Unit - Diesel..
..Defective component:
A7 Control Unit - Diesel

Èuj, odakle ti to vadiš? izgleda mi vrlo zanimljivo.. smile
Pozdrav

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#12 25-02-2010 09:16:03

marsher
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

imas to u tis-u


"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Einstein

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#13 25-02-2010 13:05:08

darko-sice
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

Rezultat sledeci...gazda nece vise da ceka posto ce da prodaje auto pa ako ga slucajno neproda onda ce da gadovrsimoi do tada kaze bolje da vadi po jednom kljuc....tako da cekamo ako bog da vec sutra da se pokvari skroz :-)
POZDRAV

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#14 13-08-2012 22:27:16

rlucian
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Iz: Romania
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Re: Problem sa zafirom...pali-nepali

Hello,

Same issue with P1625 here. My car can't start. We can't find what is wrong. Can yop please be so kind and let me know what was the fix for your issue that gives error P1625? It seems that the relays are working fine and voltages are correct ....What was the solution for your car?

Thanks,
Lucian

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